Post by Mayu Shiikawa on Jul 12, 2012 10:05:28 GMT -5
At the bottom of this post, I have displayed an image that I believe should make me less suspicious.
That having been said, I do NOT agree with Amira picking random people, and that being that. As stated, this is a game about deception, and I have f*** all to do if we're not talking, making this game extra boring and stupid.
I DO, however, believe that she should carry more weight, being the only known student, so I propose this:
We all vie for Amira's attention with our emotions and logic. Then, we can see who exhibits suspicious behavior. This will have the benefit of allowing Amira more informed decisions.
So, basically, like the US congress and passing laws, but with only one house. WE get to propose who to kill, Amira gets to FINALIZE or REJECT it.
Howzat sound?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Last Edit: Jul 12, 2012 10:09:02 GMT -5 by Mayu Shiikawa
Unfortunately, Mayu that can't mark your innocence. I was online for quite a while last night, and I noticed an invisible user at one point in time. When someone logs in as an invisible user, ProBoards doesn't mark that login time and makes it look like they didn't log in. Whoever set their profile to invisible could have done it yesterday afternoon, then logged on and voted invisibly.
I even happened to quote the member numbers last night on Skype: [7/11/2012 10:36:47 PM] Toby: Heh [7/11/2012 10:36:59 PM] Teggers: 3 Staff Members, 30 Members, 200 Guests, 1 Invisible User [7/11/2012 10:37:05 PM] Teggers: That's.... many guests. [7/11/2012 10:37:10 PM] Toby: I smell bots
Furthermore, there is probably more than one baddie. If you took turns not logging in at night, you could feign innocence by letting the rest of the group do your dirty work.
Hahahaha. We could swing the way of logic, though, since you insist. Amira suggested I write out my theory on here....
So far, there's a clear pattern in the killings. The two killed so far have played this game several times in the past. Therefore, the baddie boss knows this and is targeting them in particular. As such, the baddie boss has most likely played this game with them before. After all, people who haven't played this game on here before wouldn't focus on that idea unless they thoroughly read through the previous games and noted whose alts belong to whom. People who only started recently would also focus on such things less.
I've sorted out the people most likely to be baddies (sinister sisters?) like this, going from most likely to least (left to right and top to bottom): High Risk: Layne, Mayu, Micha Moderate Risk: Xander, Cyan (student), Amira (guardian angel) Low Risk: Protege, FUF
If you look at the list, you'll see that the murdered players are on the far ends. We can presume the comfort zone of the baddie dictator is in the middle, and anyone above or below the far edges of the kills is innocent or at least not in charge. This includes Amira, whom we know is safe, as well as Protege and Xander.
Given this profile of behavior, it seems most likely that Layne, Mayu, or Micha is in charge of killing off magical girls. Layne is in the very middle with five players written below her location and five above. Of course, my deductions cannot be exact, which is why I say Mayu are Micha are also likely.
I was thinking that Layne was probably in charge until Mayu made the argument about not logging on last night. Surely Mayu is aware, after being here for several years, that she could act invisibly and claim a false alibi that way.
After Mayu's unreliable alibi, though, she seems the most suspicious.
«Call a friend, call Cyan.» «Cyan - play it!» «Things go better with Cyan.» «Food or Cyan? I'll have Cyan.» «Cyan is a female force. «I want Cyan and I want it now.» «Oh my gods, it's a Cyan.» - Courtesy of www.sloganizer.net/en/ -
Post by Mayu Shiikawa on Jul 12, 2012 16:15:56 GMT -5
XD
Okay, sure. I'm totally the bad guy. You should all vote for me.
I forgot about the invisible logging in thing. Of course, the fact that you've thought of all this implies you're a little suspicious.
I'd have prolly killed you off the second night, if I was the baddie, because I honestly see you as a threat to me, being all wordy and whatnot. You would've known if either you died or no one died (because Amira might've not prot'd you the first night.) I would prolly take out the biggest threats, the people with the most words and stuff. In fact, someone who had been in the most games would do THAT. They would target the people who sway the most opinions. Which might make me suspicious again, since I'm not dead, yet, but they also targeted Mury over you. Arc would be on my list, but then you, then Amira. Any other smart person would go Arc, me, you, sparkles (not in this game), orca, amira.
In fact... someone could be going after me now, since I could sway opinions.
Also, I just suggested a method to allow people to chatter, to reveal suspicious behavior, and then you accuse me? Really?
XD
Oh, well, I don't expect you to know that I was asleep at 11pm eastern, which is the time you suggested. Oh, man. I would NOT be up that late, since I normally have to get up at 4-5am for work, and if I don't get into a habit, I just don't sleep at all.
But, yeah, let's go that way, and assume I was a baddie. I would have to have told another baddie my vote, or just let them run wild. I'm too much of a control freak to let them run wild, so I would have had to tell them my vote. So, that should make the baddies anyone played by Orca or Toby, since they were the last people on when I left. So, kill Orca, too, then. Clearly a baddie. Yep. But kill me first. I will then proceed to laugh at everyone and/or whine about how boring it is doing nothing and/or play Oh, why that does indeed tickle my fancy! instead.
Post by Mayu Shiikawa on Jul 12, 2012 16:26:33 GMT -5
Yeah, though, anyways, I would also like to point out that you were never announced as a student, so we can't take you for granted like you seem to in your post. But, yeah. Kill me, everyone, totally the most suspicious. But, if you kill me, and I'm just a student, I insist that CYAN IS THE MOST SUSPICIOUS. I will sac myself to get you killed.
But Mayu, if you kill Cyan, who will you ever discuss this with?
Anywho, I feel as if either Mayu or Cyan has to be a baddie. Simply because they talk so much. I doubt any baddies would attempt to just pass under the radar by remaining quiet, or at least wouldn't intend to majorly. However, I can't determine which of you it is. Or it could be both of you and this is just an elaborate way to keep one of you from looking suspicious.
Both of you are working hard on arguments and evidence, so for now I think you are helpful enough that neither one of you should be killed. Since voting is kinda tied up at the moment, with everyone voting for someone else, I think I will take and vote for Xander. We keep the benefits of Mayu and Cyan babbling, and someone else is dead (in the end, maybe not Xander though.)
Post by Amira Raines on Jul 12, 2012 16:46:42 GMT -5
Okay. So....
You all know I agree with Cyan a lot. Obviously.
But from an unbiased standpoint, I really felt Cyan's argument had a lot more logic. And Cyan did give me some suspects. I agree with Cyan.
I also do believe that Mayu's case for her alibi had loop holes.
And Cyan's theory made sense. So say it is either Layne, Micha, or Mayu as the actual ring leader, Mayu is only saying she wasn't here last night after 4:10, which may or may not be true cause of invisible users.
Mayu suddenly put herself into suspicion while she tried to clear herself.
Last Edit: Jul 12, 2012 16:50:42 GMT -5 by Amira Raines
I'd have prolly killed you off the second night, if I was the baddie, because I honestly see you as a threat to me, being all wordy and whatnot. You would've known if either you died or no one died (because Amira might've not prot'd you the first night.) I would prolly take out the biggest threats, the people with the most words and stuff. In fact, someone who had been in the most games would do THAT. They would target the people who sway the most opinions. Which might make me suspicious again, since I'm not dead, yet, but they also targeted Mury over you. Arc would be on my list, but then you, then Amira. Any other smart person would go Arc, me, you, sparkles (not in this game), orca, amira.
That's why I actually didn't want to say anything at first, but Amira said I should... T_T
I figure she'll die tonight, and I'll die tomorrow night, which really sucks.
You don't sound like you're lying, but how would I know? Perhaps you could suggest someone else for us to vote for? Though, if you really are a baddie, that'd be pretty funny....
Yeah, though, anyways, I would also like to point out that you were never announced as a student, so we can't take you for granted like you seem to in your post. But, yeah. Kill me, everyone, totally the most suspicious. But, if you kill me, and I'm just a student, I insist that CYAN IS THE MOST SUSPICIOUS. I will sac myself to get you killed.
Hey, I actually thought Layne was the most suspicious until you said you didn't log in. You claim ignorance, but you've played this game for a long time.
But Mayu, if you kill Cyan, who will you ever discuss this with?
Anywho, I feel as if either Mayu or Cyan has to be a baddie. Simply because they talk so much. I doubt any baddies would attempt to just pass under the radar by remaining quiet, or at least wouldn't intend to majorly. However, I can't determine which of you it is. Or it could be both of you and this is just an elaborate way to keep one of you from looking suspicious.
Both of you are working hard on arguments and evidence, so for now I think you are helpful enough that neither one of you should be killed. Since voting is kinda tied up at the moment, with everyone voting for someone else, I think I will take and vote for Xander. We keep the benefits of Mayu and Cyan babbling, and someone else is dead (in the end, maybe not Xander though.)
I just like to talk and analyze. v.v
Anyway, I think the leader of the baddies is one of the people I mentioned, but the other baddies would be distributed randomly. Dunno how to figure those out.
I can't help it if you pushed a really fallacious alibi...
«Call a friend, call Cyan.» «Cyan - play it!» «Things go better with Cyan.» «Food or Cyan? I'll have Cyan.» «Cyan is a female force. «I want Cyan and I want it now.» «Oh my gods, it's a Cyan.» - Courtesy of www.sloganizer.net/en/ -
Post by Micha Volkov on Jul 12, 2012 17:54:00 GMT -5
1) invisible person is not anyone in this game 2) gonna pull a mury and right out let you all know im jesus moe magical girl desu moe uguu and i will happily prove this by bringing back to life the next student to die. so i say we all vote xander (or really whomever) and if they're a student i'll bring them back. if not uh yay? inb4 i get eaten first.
Well, if you know for a fact Mayu isn't the invisible person or didn't sneak on invisibly, then I've got no reason to vote for her.... You say we should go with Amira's original guess and kill Xander first? I guess we'll see what happens.
No reviving Xander if he's a baddie, k?
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